This week we're joined by Liz Keyes, associate professor of law at the University of Baltimore, and Austin Kocher, a research associate professor with the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC), a research institute that uses Freedom of Information Act requests to study the federal government. Liz and Austin start things off by crushing my hopes and dreams, but then we segue into a very interesting conversation about open borders, changing the immigration conversation, and more.  If you like the show sign up to be a patron at patreon.com/redirect

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