When you’re late to the game, moving backwards, or hitting dead ends, how can that be seen as successful? And what if culturally defined success isn’t the end result at all? Can you make progress while not being successful? Jen and Steve tease through these questions, reminiscing about their marathon-running days, and realize that maybe progressing in life doesn’t have to be about success. Maybe there’s another way to be happy. Maybe it’s within our grasp right now. And maybe that's what success really is. 
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