On today's episode host Alex chats with Jenny Hayes about the deep and meditative practice of somatic experiencing. Jenny, a seasoned therapist, details her holistic approach to healing, emphasizing the need for space that allows for unlabelled client experiences and the power of listening to the body's narrative. With Alex bringing in perspectives on embodiment, the conversation  merges personal stories, theory, and therapeutic practice, illustrating the interconnectedness of humans with each other and the planet.The discussion moves into a shared passion for the importance of connecting with nature within therapeutic spaces and the role of spirituality in building these profound connections. Jenny delves into the pivotal moments of her career and personal journey, articulating the importance of leaning into the soulful aspects of psychotherapy to facilitate healing and growth. For those intrigued by the interplay between our inner experiences and the external world, and for a more comprehensive dive into the richness of this conversation, tune in to the complete episode. Links and Resources Mentioned:Wandering Within Wellness: https://www.wanderwithinwellness.com/Healing Trauma by Peter Levine: https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Trauma-Pioneering-Program-Restoring/dp/159179658X Joanna Macy's Work That Reconnects: https://workthatreconnects.org/ Key Highlights:00:00 - Introduction to Somatic Experiencing00:54 - Jenny's Professional Background01:40 - Bringing SE Training to Madison02:03 - Training Milestones03:23 - Jenny's Early Influences and Career Path08:02 - Discovery of Somatic Experiencing11:41 - Explaining Somatic Experiencing22:12 - Current Practices in SE33:05 - Ecotherapy and Retreats36:55 - The Reciprocal Relationship with Nature01:00:18 - Personal Growth and Spirituality in Therapy

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