Jeff Mack and John Rizzo share their journeys from shy beginnings and tough leaders to confident CEOs and industry icons. Jeff, a Philadelphia real estate leader, talks about putting people before business and building your personal brand, while John, a tech entrepreneur, reflects on lessons from working with legends like Steve Jobs. Both reveal how adversity shaped their leadership and why persistence is the key to success. Tune in for insights on staying the course, leading through challenges, and leaving a lasting impact.

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