I can't lie to you, I think you're going to genuinely love this episode. Yes, it's because this is a wonderfully hilarious and fun conversation and yes, it's because you're going to absolutely adore Natalie Martin. It's also because this episode did NOT go where I thought it would ... But good thing Natalie is a licensed therapist and this isn't the first time we've talked through a real moment. I just didn't plan for it to happen while we were recording. Listen in for one of my favorite chats-to-date. We're talking about meeting and forgetting each other, our first friend fight, how therapists have friends, period, and how to walk yourself out of a spiral ... or how to let someone else walk you out of a spiral if they're willing/able. *Cough* Like today. Also. I would be seriously grateful if you left our show a review on Apple or Spotify. Personally? I think five stars sounds just about right. ;)WATCH the full episode, here on Patreon!

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