Ted Lasso veteran and star of the new series of 'Surface', Phil Dunster, joins Ali for a chat about all sorts of happy nonsense this week. Including Reading’s best bits (the place, not the thing you do with words). There's also chat about YouTube rabbit holes and the times people have accidentally called Phil “Jamie Tartt” and not, you know, his actual name. There’s also some genuinely grown-up conversation about his career in there too. Anyroad, he’s perfectly charming, as you'll find out by listening to this episode!

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