There's no hiding the fact that John Nathan-Turner is one of the most controversial figures in the history of Doctor Who.
As the show's producer from 1980-1989, he cast three Doctors, a host of companions, and became a fixture at conventions on both sides of the Atlantic.
However, Richard Marson's biography revealed a darker side to John and his partner Gary Downie, as JNT suffered from an alcohol addiction in later life, when he struggled to find work.
This struggle features in a play, Me and Him and Who, written by Stephen Wyatt - author of Paradise Towers and The Greatest Show in the Galaxy - which is being performed next week.
Dave and Kenny discuss John and his legacy, and are joined by Stephen to talk about the John and Gary he knew.

Find out more at https://www.fatsoma.com/e/7jir2f8n/me-and-him-and-who

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