In this episode of Pod Have Mercy, we sit down with Rev. Kathleen (Kathi) McShane. lawyer, pastor, innovator, and changemaker. After an early career as a civil litigator in San Francisco, Kathi followed her call to ministry, serving four congregations and later as vice president for Institutional Advancement at the Pacific School of Religion. She most recently retired as an Elder in the California-Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church, but her work is far from over.As the Director of Learning and Innovation for the Texas Methodist Foundation, Kathi continues to re-imagine what leadership in the church can look like. She is also the co-founder of The Changemaker Initiative, a movement equipping lay people to embody compassion-driven change in their communities, and co-author of Picking Up the Pieces: Leadership After Empire, written with Rabbi Elan Babchuck.In our conversation, Kathi shares insights on innovation, what it means to lead with courage in a changing church, and how Christians can become changemakers like Jesus in today’s world. From her vineyard home on the Central Coast of California, Kathi is shaping a vision for the church as a force of transformation and hope.https://thechangemakerinitiative.org

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