How have our perspectives changed since October 7th? Sarah and Beth open up about the difficulty of covering a conflict where any words will cause pain to someone. They share how their perspectives have evolved since October 7th and grapple with the moral complexities of Israel's actions, America's role, and what comes next. How do you hold complexity without losing moral clarity? Sarah and Beth explore how the Israeli government's actions have shifted their thinking, the limits of international law, and whether America should continue military aid without conditions. What is the best summer reading? In Outside of Politics, Sarah breaks down her summer reading wins and fails, from nonfiction gems to "trash" novels, while Beth plans her "fiction fall" reading list. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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