Today’s spicy bonus episode is available to all listeners. These bonus episodes are where Sarah and Beth let loose a bit more than the main show. Their feelings are often more raw and their conversation often has more heat. This episode, like many of our spicy bonus episodes, is explicit. If you enjoy this type of conversation from Sarah and Beth, we hope you’ll join us as a paid subscriber here on Substack. Being part of the Spice Cabinet — as we lovingly refer to our paid subscribers — gets you access to this weekly spicy bonus episode, as well as Sarah and Beth’s two premium shows: Good Morning and More to Say. Plus, access to the comments, extras like our film club, and more. Join our Spicy Cabinet community on Substack. In this episode, Sarah and Beth talk about their feelings of powerlessness and frustration at how the system feels unresponsive right now. They also reflect on the Cincinnati live event and how we try to avoid a consumption model in our events. Plus, they share how they are thinking about our production as we head into a short summer break. How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States by Daniel Immerwahr (MacMillan)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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