Would Trump have become President of the United States without The Apprentice? It’s a question he has often considered. Ramin Setoodeh is the journalist that has spoken to Trump the most in recent years, and his new book, Apprentice in Wonderland: How Donald Trump and Mark Burnett Took America Through the Looking Glass is the untold story of the former president’s time as a reality TV star. 
Together they discuss everything from Trump’s “severe memory issues” and deepest insecurities to the possibility of a second term, and his real legacy. 
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