In this deeply moving episode, Kim welcomes Hillary Giovale—mother, writer, reparationist, and author of Becoming a Good Relative. Hillary shares her journey as a ninth-generation American settler learning to live in truth, integrity, and radical accountability.



This conversation is a mirror for white women over 40 who want to engage in racial equity work—but feel stuck in guilt, fear, or the paralysis of perfectionism. Hillary doesn’t just talk theory—she walks us through the spiritual, somatic, and ancestral healing required to move from silence to sovereignty. From sacred mountains to sacred memory, from dance to decolonization, Hillary shares how she’s untangled herself from the stories that kept her playing small—and how you can too.
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