Have you ever been hooked on a TV show by one specific moment? Was it a character, a musical theme, a line of dialogue? For host David Van Norman, that moment was meeting Storybrooke’s Savior, Emma Swan. And he's not alone! Guest Jackie Rogers (an assistant editor in network television) joins this Swan-centric discussion to revisit Once Upon a Time’s fourth episode, “The Price of Gold.”Together, they explore Emma Swan’s pivotal speech about showing people who they really are—and how that moment resonates across her entire journey. From Emma’s emotional walls and self-doubt in the early seasons to her growth as the Savior battling the forces of evil, David and Jackie dive deep into what makes her such a compelling character. It’s a thoughtful look at identity, resilience, and why Emma Swan remains at the heart of Once Upon a Time’s enduring magic.

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