Welcome to the second episode, live from #ESPC! We’ve got a couple of new guests joining us today: Kas Nowicka from CoreView and Ragnar Heil from Rencore.In this episode, we’re going to be dipping our toes into the five pillars of cloud governance: Cost management, Security baseline, Resource consistency, Identity baseline, and Deployment acceleration. Sounds like a lot of fun, right?Our host Steve talks about identity, which is great because he’s been struggling with his own identity for years. We’re hoping that by the end of this episode, he’ll finally figure out who he really is.Marijn, on the other hand, is drawing a blank. We’re not sure if it’s because he’s overwhelmed by all the governance talk or if he’s just having a bad day. Either way, we’re here to support him.And then there’s Kas. She’s our hero, our savior, our knight in shining armor. When Marijn drew a blank, Kas stepped up to the plate with her quick wit and humor. She’s the reason we’re all still here today.Unfortunately, we don’t have any whisky yet. But don’t worry, we’re working on it. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and enjoy the show!

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