Zukie Tandathu is an ultrarunner, a 22-year soldier, and a crew member of Black Trail Runners. In this episode we chat about how joy and discipline can live side by side, what it really takes to train for the desert in the Marathon de Sables, and why inclusion in trail running needs more action than slogans.In this conversation we talk about:Growing up in South Africa with sport at the centreMoving to the UK at 14 and culture shockJoy and discipline coexisting in training and lifeLessons from 22 years as a soldierWhat it really takes to run the Marathon des SablesInstilling adventure in his childrenManaging screens and encouraging time outdoorsWhy brands are not doing enough on diversityPractical actions to increase inclusion in trail runningThe role of Black Trail Runners and how to support itYou can find Zukie here:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/zukie_tandathu/Threads - threads.com/@zukie_tandathu Zukie is a crew member of BTR (Black Trail Runners)www.Blacktrailrunners.run Thank you

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