This is a podcast edited from the conversation between three Nordic experts talking about Russian aggression in Ukraine and the way it is unravelling 70 years of neutrality and non-alignment in Scandinavia. It deals with opinion polls suggesting most Swedes and Finns want to join NATO, but questions American commitment to the Alliance - in light of remarks made five years ago by President Trump suggesting NATO is 'obsolete' and encouraging Europeans to take over the defence of their own continent. Our speakers ponder whether the time has arrived for an EU defence force.Dr. Hans Mouritzen, Senior Researcher, Foreign policy and diplomacy, Danish Institute for International Studies:Dr. Johanna Vuorelma, Centre for European Studies, University of Helsinki,Dr. Iver B. Neumann, Director, Fridtjof Nansen Institute, NorwayProfessor Lynn Jamieson, Chair Scottish CND,Chaired by Lesley Riddoch, Director Nordic Horizons.

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