What exactly does it mean to be the Chief Innovation and Entrepreneurship Officer at UC Berkeley? We wanted to find out, so we invited Rich Lyons to give us the scoop. Rich discusses the exciting initiatives he’s involved in at Berkeley, including a bio-enginuity incubator, a research infrastructure commons, and the “Changemaker” course. Rich and Lee discuss how his work brings the university closer to the line between innovation and tradition in education— and how uncomfortable that makes people. Rich thinks a lot about conflicts of interest and how far he can reasonably push things at a prestigious university like Berkeley. Lee asks Rich about inflation and macroeconomics, and the two discuss what we can learn from that field of study.

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