In this episode, Alan is joined by Dr. Casara Andre, a veterinarian and healer of both humans and animals, and they discuss discusses her journey from the US Army Veterinary Corps to her current work, emphasizing the importance of the human-animal bond and the need for careful, intentional use of psychedelics and cannabis in animal therapy. They also touch on the impact of human emotional health on animals, the importance of veterinary guidance, and the potential for using animal well-being as a marker of human well-being. They emphasize the importance of journaling pets' behaviors to track human progress and ego-free self-awareness. They highlight the need for cortisol testing in pets and warn of potential abuse if humans aren't adequately supported. They discuss the concept of "surrogate healing" where a human interacts with psychedelics on behalf of a fragile patient. They also talk about the necessity of integrating psychedelic experiences into daily life, ensuring pet safety, and the potential legalization of psychedelics in the next decade. Listen In!Thank you for listening to this episode of Neuma: The Crossroad Of Science & Enlightenment 

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