a double-interview on Common Threads, Sept 4, 2009: Jerry Paffendorf, the near-mythical tri-coastal (SF, NY, Detroit) futurist/entrepreneur, and the editor and creator of a new Apocalyptica zine in SF both come talk to Diamond Dave and Naomi Most for interviews. Naomi wants to know about the MakeLoveLand project to get people to invest $1 per inch in a million inches of detroit property (what kind of investment in that??) while Dave finds the common thread with Grace Lee Boggs, long-time organizer and protector of urban Detroit.

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