In this episode we sit down with my good friend Jeff Hyun. Jeff is the lead pastor of Holy Wave, the english speaking ministry of Sarang Church based out in Orange County, CA. We talk about the power of pain and the catalytic role that it can play in growth and development. We talk about Jeff's own journey through some of the most painful seasons of his life and what that has produced as a result of that process. This episode is for anyone out there who may be going through their own process and journey of understanding their pain and how it can all be turned around for our good. 

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