In this heartfelt episode, Kaili sits down with Gail Gabriel, a fellow occupational therapist, NICU mama, and founder of The NICU Collective. Gail shares her raw and powerful journey from the unexpected early delivery of her son at 30 weeks to navigating the NICU, early intervention, and her own emotional healing.Whether you’ve experienced a high-risk birth, a NICU stay, or just the intense uncertainty of new motherhood, this episode offers real talk, deep compassion, and hard-earned wisdom.You’ll hear about:What it's really like to bring home a premature babyHow to shift from fear to trust—even after traumaThe power of community and sharing your storyMental health, NICU PTSD, and finding your way back to selfWhy creating space for your healing matters as much as your baby’s developmentGail’s story will resonate deeply with any mama who’s ever felt out of control, isolated, or overwhelmed—and her insights will help you feel seen, supported, and not alone.🕒 Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome & Kaili’s intro 03:18 – Meet Gail Gabriel: OT, mom, NICU warrior 06:46 – Gail’s birth & NICU story: a 30-week surprise 11:25 – Trauma, healing, and finding her footing again 17:52 – Mental health, fear, and building resilience 22:00 – Finding support when no one else gets it 26:49 – The NICU Collective: creating safe spaces for NICU families 30:25 – Why sharing your story matters 31:40 – Redefining self-care as a NICU mom 36:35 – Gail’s takeaway: the NICU journey shapes you 41:00 – Final reflections + where to find Gail💜 Connect with Gail: Instagram: @nicu_collective Facebook: NICU Collective📘 Grab Kaili’s Book: Mothering From Within – your compassionate, holistic guide to baby sleep, development, reflux, and more - https://www.kailiets.com/book✨ Loved this episode? Subscribe, rate, and share it with a friend who needs this kind of soul-deep support. And tag us on IG @theholisticbabyguru and @nicu_collective—we love hearing your thoughts!

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