Alice Kalro joins host Jeni Miles to explore why traditional businesses fail to transform amidst systemic breakdown. As founder of arkH3 and lead author of "Leading Through the Polycollapse," Alice believes that conventional corporate sustainability approaches amount to "fairy tales" disconnected from planetary realities.Key Takeaways:Understand that polycollapse describes multiple interrelated breakdown processes across environmental, economic, and social systemsRecognise that conventional sustainability approaches focused on "doing less harm" remain fundamentally inadequateAccept that financial system collapse may occur in the 2030s, preceding full ecological breakdownPrepare for metadisruption—the predictable aggravation of current trends affecting multiple industriesTransform core business models toward providing essential needs without causing harmAbandon incremental metrics for binary questions about business necessity and impactMatch your level of courage to your level of privilege to drive systemic changeTimestamps: 00:00 — Introduction and overview of polycollapse 07:59 — Approaching difficult conversations about systemic breakdown13:52 — Understanding polycollapse versus other collapse terminology18:44 — How systemic foresight differs from traditional scenario planning23:49 — Financial system collapse and meta-disruption30:49 — Implications for shareholder value and future business viability37:18 — Metrics for future-compatible business models41:20 — Matching courage to privilege for business leadersResources:arkH3: https://www.arkh3.comLeading Through the Polycollapse eBook: https://www.arkh3.com/resources/leading-through-the-polycollapse-a-guide-to-systemic-foresight-for-vuca-native-strategy arkH3’s training programs: https://training-series.arkh3.com/ Regeneration Journal interview: https://www.regenerationjournal.org/on-leading-through-the-polycollapse-an-interview-with-alice-kalro-claudia-gasparovic-and-julio-campos/Breaking Together by Jem Bendell: https://jembendell.com/2023/04/08/breaking-together-a-freedom-loving-response-to-collapse/Global Tipping Points Conference: https://global-tipping-points.org/conference-2025/Business Declares: https://businessdeclares.comConnect:Follow Alice on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-kalro/ Follow Jeni on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenifisher/Subscribe to the Moral Footprint Substack: https://moralfootprint.substack.com/About Alice Kalro:Alice Kalro is founder of arkH3 and an emerging global thought leader in transformational corporate sustainability, providing practical guidance on science- and ethics-aligned business transformation for a just and liveable future.

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