Doug and J.R. have an incredibly raw and hopeful conversation with pastor Rick McKinley. Rick touches on how these past 2 years have impacted leaders, the toll of ministry on health, and loving your family well. I appreciate who Rick is, the faithfulness he has led with(for over 20 years), and the thoughtful ways he is engaging his city. Lastly, his benediction is one that will stick with you for weeks, months and years to come.  BOOKS: Check out Rick’s author page here.…Information and registration for our online group coaching and spiritual direction cohorts can be found at www.kiarospartnerships.org/groups - space is limited so make sure to sign up soon.If you haven’t signed up for J.R.’s every other week FREE newsletter 5 Things in 5 Minutes (yes the entire thing can be read in less than 5 minutes or less), here’s the link: www.kairospartnerships.org/5t5mWe’d love to hear from you. Drop us a line.Doug – [email protected]. – [email protected]**Monday Morning Pastor is produced by the incredibly gifted Joel Limbauan. Check out his great video and podcast work at On a Limb Productions www.onalimbproductions.comIf this podcast adds value to you, your team, or your organization, consider (1) subscribing (2) leaving a review and (3) sharing it with othersLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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