In this episode, Patrick O'Brien and Bohdan Volyanyuk, the founders of Autonomous Cyber discuss the evolution of cyber operations, the integration of AI in cybersecurity, and the challenges faced in modern warfare. They explore the concept of dual-use technology, the significance of the fifth domain in conflict, and the impact of generative AI on both offensive and defensive strategies. The conversation highlights the importance of upskilling cyber professionals and the innovative approaches being taken to enhance cybersecurity capabilities. In this conversation, Patrick and Bohdan discuss the rapid evolution of AI models in cybersecurity, the importance of user experience, and the challenges of building trust within government technology. They emphasize the need for continuous innovation and adaptation in a fast-paced environment, while also addressing the significance of integrating workflows and overcoming adoption hurdles. The discussion highlights the value of user feedback and the importance of building strong relationships with clients in the national security sector. We discuss: The Emergence of Autonomous Cyber OperationsThe Role of AI in CybersecurityUnderstanding Penetration TestingDual Use Technology in Cyber OperationsThe Fifth Domain in Modern WarfareChallenges in Cyber OperationsThe Impact of Generative AI on CybersecurityDefending Against Cyber ThreatsBuilding Innovative Cybersecurity TechnologyInnovations in Cybersecurity PartnershipsBuilding Tools for CybersecurityUser Experience and Future VisionBuilding Trust in Government TechnologyIntegrating Workflows for EfficiencyOvercoming Adoption ChallengesSurprises in the Startup JourneyIdentifying Team StrengthsRecruiting for the FutureControversial Takes on CybersecurityAdvice for Startups in National SecurityKeywords: AutonomousCyber, AI native platform, cyber operations, large language models, penetration testing, fifth domain, national security, offensive cybersecurity, vulnerability discovery, operationalization, dual use technology, human-AI collaboration, cybersecurity challenges, government customer, cyber workforce.

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