We chat with Mike Su, CEO and Founder of Cooler, a startup looking to redefine the podcast and online community experience. He was recently Director of Yellow, Snap's accelerator program, is currently a board member of Defy Ventures, and most importantly, went to college with our very own Tommy Chang. In this episode, we discuss:  His experience moving from the US to Taiwan and back (3:45)Going to college with Tommy  (11:08)Why so many online spaces are toxic and how he's trying to meet the challenge of creating the types of online communities we want to be a part of  (20:04)Why certain "models" of leadership are harmful and how we've navigated the challenges of being in or pursuing the leadership seat (29:15)Unpacking what we believe about ourselves, what we've been told, and figuring out the difference (39:11)

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