Elena Apalkova welcomes Robert Jordan, discussing his military background and transition to seminary. They delve into Robert's perspective on artificial divisions and his spiritual reformation journey. Robert shares his encounter with poverty and its profound impact on his life. The conversation shifts to coping mechanisms for PTSD, including sleep preparation strategies. Robert imparts three significant life lessons from his experiences, emphasizing the importance of spirituality and kindness. The episode concludes with Robert's heartfelt advice on embracing compassion and understanding in everyday life.

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