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Today we're going to talk about automatic thoughts.
Automatic thoughts are an interesting thing that can help you or hurt you. The weird thing is they sound like us.
In fact, we have these thoughts come into our mind, and we don't even question them, we just assume that that's how the world works. And we think about them all the time.
Every once in a while, I'll notice a person specifically saying, "Well, that's just how people are," or, "That's just how big organizations are."
Or, "That's what people think these days." Any kind of comment like that reveals some kind of automatic thought or assumption about the way people or the world or organizations work.
Do you have thoughts like that? Do you ever think about your thoughts? You know, if you notice yourself thinking something, and you pause, kind of step aside from yourself a minute and think objectively about what you're thinking, then you're doing this skill that I really love, and I think is super helpful to us all.
And that is thinking about your thinking. Now, some of the thoughts I have, I don't realize I'm having them until I stop and I tell someone else what I'm thinking. And suddenly, it'll be really obvious and really shocking that I've been thinking a certain way. And some of those thoughts that work for me and don't work for me.
I like to write down and keep track of and remember.
We can do things we've never done before.
One thought is that I can learn how to do something difficult that I've never done before. I may not be perfect at it. I may not win prizes for it. But I'm fully capable of learning something new that I haven't done before. I mean, after all, I've been doing that my whole life, haven't you?
When you were a baby, you didn't know how to crawl, and you learned how to do that. And when you were a toddler, you learned how to walk. And you didn't know how to do that before either. Some people, some people even learned how to drive cars and got driver's licenses. And that was something you had never done before. Till you started driving. So there are a lot of things in the past that prove it's true, we can learn something new that we've never done before.
All of us can. I think that way, when I'm presented with something new that I'd like to figure out, or I'd like to become fluent in doing. And like I said, it doesn't mean we're going to be masters of it. But at least we can learn something new we've never done before.
Learning to notice and recognize automatic thoughts is that same kind of thing. Now, whatever you're facing in life, whatever challenges you're up against or experiencing, whether it's in your own self or in your relationships with other people, or in your circumstances, chances are you have some thoughts about those things that are very clear to you.
The brain automates some thoughts to help us.
And some that are a little bit hidden. I would call those the automatic thoughts.
There's this thing about the brain that I've learned a lot about in the last few years. Some people call it neuroscience. Some people just call it talking about the brain, whatever you prefer, we're going to talk about your brain for just a minute here.
Now your brain is totally in favor of protecting you, helping you and making your life efficient.
So there are these parts of the brain that feed us thoughts and ideas that we have stored in there at some point. And these things come out at the most inopportune times, and they might be in the form of automatic thoughts.
The reason the brain does this is that the brain really likes to give us quick, easy solutions. Something that we've thought before is going to come back easier than something we've never thought ever. So automatic thoughts are just parts of the brain's functioning, giving us a quick fix an easy solution or shortcut to preserve our energy and to preserve our capacity so we can do other things.
Some of those thoughts that the brain feeds us are intended to help us. They're intended to save us from risk or save us from danger. And some of those thoughts are about keeping us functioning at our best. Avoiding any kind of stretching our comfort zone, doing anything new. If you've ever thought, "Well, that's just the way I am," that's probably an automatic thought saying, Yeah, you don't need to change either. Don't do it.
But I'm here to tell you that change is what life's all about; making choices changing and continuing to learn, grow and develop. If we don't do those things, then we really can't find happiness and satisfaction. Everything would be the same all the time, every day.
And if everything's the same all the time, every day, pretty soon, we don't thrive anymore. We don't have the light or the zest of life within us. Because changing growing, learning and adapting over time, help us to really feel alive and enjoy life, little challenges that are possible for us. And sometimes really big ones, too.
Automatic negative thoughts, like "should."
When you have an automatic thought many times it can be something negative. Now, there are positive automatic thoughts too. But today, I'm going to focus on the ones that are negative. One of the thoughts that happens a lot for many of us. And in my experience that's happened for me, too, is a "should" thought.
And this is something where maybe I'm reflecting on my own life. And I'm thinking I should have started saving for retirement 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, a should thought is usually causal. Like it's blame oriented. We're trying to figure out why we're not getting something right now, or why something isn't how we wish it was. So we're looking backwards.
And we're labeling it with that "should." So if we're talking about ourselves, and we're saying I should have started saving money 30 year, 30 years ago, that one is going to make me feel really bad that I didn't do it. And there's nothing I can do about something 30 years ago, there's no way to change it either. So when I'm should-ing in that sentence, I'm not really motivated to change anything. And if anything, I'm motivated to ignore it, because I'm feeling bad about it now. So I'm probably not going to start thinking about saving for retirement right now, either, because I'm getting all this negativity.
When we think should about someone else, it's usually because we think we know the answer for them, and we want to fix them, or we want to help them. And it's probably motivated by something amazing. Like, we love them, we care about them.
But anytime we're thinking should about somebody else, we are now judging them, their thoughts, their actions, their situation. Like if we think about someone we love, or we say they should go to bed earlier at night, they should get a better job, they should stop dating that toxic person that's bad for them. They should learn whatever new skill, they should lose weight, gain weight, stop exercising so much start exercising more, whatever. Every time we're shoulding someone else, it's kinda like, we think we know their life better than they do. And since they're the one living it, it's probably not true.
And when we're shoulding on someone else, we're having some kind of automatic thought that's just popping in. Because we love problem solving as human beings. And we're thinking, how can we make somebody else better? How can we just help, right?
So automatic thoughts can be "should" kind of thoughts, or they could be judgments of any kind, like some automatic thoughts people have about themselves are like, "I'm not good enough for that", or "I'm not capable of that." Or, "It's all my fault." Or, "If only I wasn't so much [this certain way]." There are so many thoughts that we can have towards ourselves that are really critical, judgmental, blame oriented, or somehow targeting less-than or that we're not as good or as worthy as other people, or maybe we're deficient.
Now it's helpful to take a true assessment and objectively decide where our deficiencies are if we would like to grow in a certain way. It's not helpful to be judging and thinking of ourselves in this overly critical negativistic manner. that can be painful, uncomfortable, unpleasant, and not productive at all. And those kinds of automatic thoughts become the way we see the world.
Automatic negative thoughts can happen anytime.
An example of this would be something that happens when we get a message that doesn't have enough information. Like, for example, if your boss sends you a message and says, "We need to talk about this in our next meeting." And that's all it says.
One person might say, "Okay, that person wants me to remember it, in case they forget."
And another person might have an automatic thought that says, "I'm in trouble, I've done something wrong."
Both of those thoughts are valid. And both of those thoughts could be true. But if you've done something wrong, and you're in trouble, your boss is probably going to pick up the phone and call you or talk to you a lot sooner the next Friday. So the automatic thought that is self judgment oriented, is negative and not helpful.
And it prevents you from doing whatever you need to do today, right now.
Put automatic thoughts "on trial."
One way that we can challenge automatic thoughts is to do this little thing we call putting them on trial. And when we put automatic thoughts on trial, first, we have to notice the automatic thought, and realize, "Wait a minute,
Today we're going to talk about automatic thoughts.
Automatic thoughts are an interesting thing that can help you or hurt you. The weird thing is they sound like us.
In fact, we have these thoughts come into our mind, and we don't even question them, we just assume that that's how the world works. And we think about them all the time.
Every once in a while, I'll notice a person specifically saying, "Well, that's just how people are," or, "That's just how big organizations are."
Or, "That's what people think these days." Any kind of comment like that reveals some kind of automatic thought or assumption about the way people or the world or organizations work.
Do you have thoughts like that? Do you ever think about your thoughts? You know, if you notice yourself thinking something, and you pause, kind of step aside from yourself a minute and think objectively about what you're thinking, then you're doing this skill that I really love, and I think is super helpful to us all.
And that is thinking about your thinking. Now, some of the thoughts I have, I don't realize I'm having them until I stop and I tell someone else what I'm thinking. And suddenly, it'll be really obvious and really shocking that I've been thinking a certain way. And some of those thoughts that work for me and don't work for me.
I like to write down and keep track of and remember.
We can do things we've never done before.
One thought is that I can learn how to do something difficult that I've never done before. I may not be perfect at it. I may not win prizes for it. But I'm fully capable of learning something new that I haven't done before. I mean, after all, I've been doing that my whole life, haven't you?
When you were a baby, you didn't know how to crawl, and you learned how to do that. And when you were a toddler, you learned how to walk. And you didn't know how to do that before either. Some people, some people even learned how to drive cars and got driver's licenses. And that was something you had never done before. Till you started driving. So there are a lot of things in the past that prove it's true, we can learn something new that we've never done before.
All of us can. I think that way, when I'm presented with something new that I'd like to figure out, or I'd like to become fluent in doing. And like I said, it doesn't mean we're going to be masters of it. But at least we can learn something new we've never done before.
Learning to notice and recognize automatic thoughts is that same kind of thing. Now, whatever you're facing in life, whatever challenges you're up against or experiencing, whether it's in your own self or in your relationships with other people, or in your circumstances, chances are you have some thoughts about those things that are very clear to you.
The brain automates some thoughts to help us.
And some that are a little bit hidden. I would call those the automatic thoughts.
There's this thing about the brain that I've learned a lot about in the last few years. Some people call it neuroscience. Some people just call it talking about the brain, whatever you prefer, we're going to talk about your brain for just a minute here.
Now your brain is totally in favor of protecting you, helping you and making your life efficient.
So there are these parts of the brain that feed us thoughts and ideas that we have stored in there at some point. And these things come out at the most inopportune times, and they might be in the form of automatic thoughts.
The reason the brain does this is that the brain really likes to give us quick, easy solutions. Something that we've thought before is going to come back easier than something we've never thought ever. So automatic thoughts are just parts of the brain's functioning, giving us a quick fix an easy solution or shortcut to preserve our energy and to preserve our capacity so we can do other things.
Some of those thoughts that the brain feeds us are intended to help us. They're intended to save us from risk or save us from danger. And some of those thoughts are about keeping us functioning at our best. Avoiding any kind of stretching our comfort zone, doing anything new. If you've ever thought, "Well, that's just the way I am," that's probably an automatic thought saying, Yeah, you don't need to change either. Don't do it.
But I'm here to tell you that change is what life's all about; making choices changing and continuing to learn, grow and develop. If we don't do those things, then we really can't find happiness and satisfaction. Everything would be the same all the time, every day.
And if everything's the same all the time, every day, pretty soon, we don't thrive anymore. We don't have the light or the zest of life within us. Because changing growing, learning and adapting over time, help us to really feel alive and enjoy life, little challenges that are possible for us. And sometimes really big ones, too.
Automatic negative thoughts, like "should."
When you have an automatic thought many times it can be something negative. Now, there are positive automatic thoughts too. But today, I'm going to focus on the ones that are negative. One of the thoughts that happens a lot for many of us. And in my experience that's happened for me, too, is a "should" thought.
And this is something where maybe I'm reflecting on my own life. And I'm thinking I should have started saving for retirement 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, a should thought is usually causal. Like it's blame oriented. We're trying to figure out why we're not getting something right now, or why something isn't how we wish it was. So we're looking backwards.
And we're labeling it with that "should." So if we're talking about ourselves, and we're saying I should have started saving money 30 year, 30 years ago, that one is going to make me feel really bad that I didn't do it. And there's nothing I can do about something 30 years ago, there's no way to change it either. So when I'm should-ing in that sentence, I'm not really motivated to change anything. And if anything, I'm motivated to ignore it, because I'm feeling bad about it now. So I'm probably not going to start thinking about saving for retirement right now, either, because I'm getting all this negativity.
When we think should about someone else, it's usually because we think we know the answer for them, and we want to fix them, or we want to help them. And it's probably motivated by something amazing. Like, we love them, we care about them.
But anytime we're thinking should about somebody else, we are now judging them, their thoughts, their actions, their situation. Like if we think about someone we love, or we say they should go to bed earlier at night, they should get a better job, they should stop dating that toxic person that's bad for them. They should learn whatever new skill, they should lose weight, gain weight, stop exercising so much start exercising more, whatever. Every time we're shoulding someone else, it's kinda like, we think we know their life better than they do. And since they're the one living it, it's probably not true.
And when we're shoulding on someone else, we're having some kind of automatic thought that's just popping in. Because we love problem solving as human beings. And we're thinking, how can we make somebody else better? How can we just help, right?
So automatic thoughts can be "should" kind of thoughts, or they could be judgments of any kind, like some automatic thoughts people have about themselves are like, "I'm not good enough for that", or "I'm not capable of that." Or, "It's all my fault." Or, "If only I wasn't so much [this certain way]." There are so many thoughts that we can have towards ourselves that are really critical, judgmental, blame oriented, or somehow targeting less-than or that we're not as good or as worthy as other people, or maybe we're deficient.
Now it's helpful to take a true assessment and objectively decide where our deficiencies are if we would like to grow in a certain way. It's not helpful to be judging and thinking of ourselves in this overly critical negativistic manner. that can be painful, uncomfortable, unpleasant, and not productive at all. And those kinds of automatic thoughts become the way we see the world.
Automatic negative thoughts can happen anytime.
An example of this would be something that happens when we get a message that doesn't have enough information. Like, for example, if your boss sends you a message and says, "We need to talk about this in our next meeting." And that's all it says.
One person might say, "Okay, that person wants me to remember it, in case they forget."
And another person might have an automatic thought that says, "I'm in trouble, I've done something wrong."
Both of those thoughts are valid. And both of those thoughts could be true. But if you've done something wrong, and you're in trouble, your boss is probably going to pick up the phone and call you or talk to you a lot sooner the next Friday. So the automatic thought that is self judgment oriented, is negative and not helpful.
And it prevents you from doing whatever you need to do today, right now.
Put automatic thoughts "on trial."
One way that we can challenge automatic thoughts is to do this little thing we call putting them on trial. And when we put automatic thoughts on trial, first, we have to notice the automatic thought, and realize, "Wait a minute,
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