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Dr. Dave: (00:00)
So my psychiatrist admitted to me that talk therapy is. I'm gonna tell you all about that right now. I'm Dr. Dave and welcome to microdose you. And before we get into today's episode, I just wanna make sure you always know that this is not medical advice. Even though I am a doctor, I'm a retired dentist. I am not authorized to be giving out medical advice on YouTube. I share my experience and what I've been through as far as with, um, anxiety, depression, microdosing, how that's all helped me. And you're free to take away anything you want, but it's not official medical advice. So, um, about oh four to five months after I started microdosing magic mushrooms, I was sitting in my psychiatrist office for a regular appointment. And at that time I was still on, um, antidepressants or I should say antidepressant singular was Lexapro.

Dr. Dave: (00:52)
And we were having a really nice little chat. And I came in with my little notebook here, just something like this. And I said, Hey doc, um, let me share with you what I've learned from microdosing. And yeah, he knew that I was microdosing. He was in favor of it actually. And I began to read off some things about my life that I figured out why I feel like this. Now what happened in the past? And after reading off a list of things that I figured out from microdosing, he kind of came forward to me and said, Dave, I've gotta tell you something. What you learned in four to five months, whenever it was four to five months, it would've taken you over 20 years of talk therapy to have realized all that and to have figured all this stuff out. So, first of all, I was very happy to hear the progress I made just from microdosing.

Dr. Dave: (01:40)
And second of all, I took that to mean from his words, if you just read between the lines that talk therapy is, because who can, who can afford to spend 20 years on coming in, sitting on the sofa in somebody's office and chatting and trying to improve your life. That's not a way that's way too slow. And he didn't even guarantee that 20 years would do it. So it could possibly be more. Now I've spent a lot of time in therapist's office over the years, but, um, going back to my first marriage, I saw, I used to see a therapist sometimes off and on, and she was really nice and we had good sessions and I paid her a lot of money, but, um, did it really help me? Um, no, I can't say that it did it didn't didn't change my life in any way.

Dr. Dave: (02:27)
Didn't I mean, I really wish I would've had somebody good because she would've let me see what was going on in my life and my marriage. And I would've been able to make decisions faster than I I had done. So I wish it worked, but it, it didn't work at all. And then once I got divorced again, this is my first marriage. When I got divorced, um, I went to see a therapist. She was a psychiatrist, so a psychiatrist, an MD, a physician. And I would go in and not only did she prescribe me antidepressants, but we would have an hour talk about two to three times a week. And it was fun. I mean, it was actually fun going in and chatting with somebody and telling her about my life. But when I look back now, it, it didn't help me at all. It didn't help.

Dr. Dave: (03:10)
It didn't help me figure things out. It didn't help me change it. And she was very, very highly regarded, um, physician MD and, um, psychiatrist. It's not that she wasn't, she was no slouch, but sometimes therapists don't even know what to say. And sometimes they say horrible things. Now she says something to me at one point towards the end of my therapy, uh, and never went back to her after this. But she, we were somehow, I don't know. You know, sometimes you get on tangent and we were talking about, uh, this must have been in 2008 because we were talking about the up...

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