David Spratt joins hosts Arjana and Kathy to talk climate risk, tipping points, and the case for surface-based, reversible cooling alongside deep decarbonization. Practical, people-first strategies to cut heat stress now—no silver bullets, just grounded engineering.SynopsisWhy mainstream assessments underplay systemic risk; how optimism bias shapes policy; and a practical framework for surface reflectors & passive cooling as an urgent complement to decarbonization.Key points:Risk realism and cascading tipping pointsOvershoot: managing near-term heatSurface-based cooling: scalable, reversible, community-levelEquity, governance, and measurementCalls to actionListen/share the episode • Explore MEER’s work meer.org

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