In this episode, Jonathan Hoskin rejoins Graeme and Joey as they look at the physical world and rediscover a re-enchantment or sacramental nature to the world through visiting Iain McGilChrist's, "The Matter With Things" (2021). They explore how the Western world became flat and secular, who Iain McGilchrist is and what he gets right and wrong about the world and God, how the world is deeply sacramental and what that means, and much more.00:00 Introduction02:15 Jonathan is BACK!06:10 The world is a window, not a wall10:40 How we became secular people23:45 how secularism has impacted Christians33:55 Iain McGilchrist "The Matter With Things"39:15 Mistaking the map for the terrain (important)42:30 McGilchrist re-enchants a scientific world50:55 Jesus confirms a sacramental world54:35 How we can change from a flat, mechanistic worldview01:00:45 Theologians pray ... [insert literally anything] prayPodcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington.The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.

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