Preserving Disorder is the new book show at Lumpen Radio. Hosted by Jeremy Kitchen, author, and purveyor of all that is weird, offensive, and obscene, amateur literary scholar Susie Swanton, the curious minded Tim Werner. Join us as we try and figure out the Midwest literary landscape and beyond. Produced by Julie Wu, and music by RXM Reality.
In this episode, author Theodore Van Alst Jr. discusses his recent novel "The El." See more of his work here https://sites.prh.com/theodorevanalst
This episode was recorded on August 14, 2025 and will air on August 24, 2025.

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