LIFTOFF: The Art & Science of ConversationEpisode 2In Episode 2, host Ilana Gilovich explores how to build conversational environments in which all participants feel empowered to take creative risks. Featured Guests:Brandon Kazen-Maddox: ASL artist, director, choreographer, dancer, acrobat, and filmmakerDavid Pizarro: Cornell University psychology professor and co-host of Very Bad WizardsAlejandro Rodriguez: writer, director, and founder of Alejo CommunicationsMorsels Mentioned:Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good by Adrienne Maree BrownSister Outsider by Audre LordeVideo Interview:The full video interview with Brandon Kazen-Maddox is available here with subtitles, so podcast audiences can both see and hear the conversation. Transcripts for all LIFTOFF episodes are available on Buzzsprout.

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