In this episode of Learning From Leaders, we sit down with Mandy Ginsberg and Shar Dubey. These two women are trailblazing executives who each served as CEO of Match Group, the company behind Tinder, Match.com, OkCupid, and Hinge. Together, they reflect on their unlikely paths into tech leadership, building a startup from the ground up, and scaling Match into a global portfolio of brands. Their story is one of risk-taking, resilience, and redefining the rules of leadership. 
Mandy and Shar share candid insights into their complementary styles, the power of asking for help, and why transparency and trust shaped Match’s culture. They also discuss the importance of mentorship, gender equity, and building diverse teams. They offer advice for rising leaders and talk about their continued work in health and wellness, including Mandy’s service on the Board of Southwestern Medical Foundation and involvement with the women’s health app, Flo.
 
Chapters: 
00:00 – Intro 
00:56 - Meet Mandy Ginsberg and Shar Dubey 
02:00 - How Mandy and Shar First Joined Match 
04:07 - Building Chemistry.com from Scratch 
06:38 - Lessons in Scrappy Leadership 
07:18 - Early Career Turning Points 
10:00 - Scaling from Startup to Global Platform 
12:21 - Managing a Portfolio of Dating Brands 
13:40 - Taking Match Group Public 
15:27 - Navigating COVID  
17:11 - Lasting Changes from the Pandemic 
19:32 - Building a Strong Executive Partnership 
21:28 - Creating a People-First Culture 
23:53 - Championing Equity in the Workplace 
25:53 - Leadership Lessons and Personal Growth 
28:11 - Why Shar Never Takes Notes 
30:31 - Women in Leadership and the Path Forward 
33:15 - Health, Transparency, and Board Service 
36:31 - Advice for Aspiring Women Leaders 
39:03 - Raising Your Hand and Knowing Your Value 
40:21 - Mentorship and Mutual Respect 
42:00 - Mandy’s Role at Flo and FemTech Growth 
44:00 - Shar’s Work in Mental Health Innovation 
45:30 - Why Mandy Joined Southwestern Medical Foundation 
47:08 - Corporate Responsibility and Community Impact 
48:10 - How to Get Involved and Give Back 
50:17 - What They're Most Proud Of 
52:32 - Rapid Fire Questions 
59:00 - Closing Remarks 
 
Episode Details: 
Episode 7, Season 2 
Host: 
Lili Clark | Vice Chair, The Cary Council; Senior Associate, LH Capital, Inc. / Lyda Hill Philanthropies - www.lydahillphilanthropies.org
Guests:  
Mandy Ginsberg | Former Match Group CEO (2017-2020) | www.mtch.com 
Shar Dubey | Former Match Group CEO (2020-2022 | www.mtch.com 
Producer: Dustin Magwire | Digital Media Senior Manager, Southwestern Medical Foundation - www.swmedical.org
Videography: Brazos Film & Video - www.brazosfilms.com 
 
Disclaimer: 
The Southwestern Medical Foundation Podcast is intended solely for educational purposes.  Nothing contained therein constitutes, nor should be interpreted as medical, healthcare, financial or legal advice.   
Southwestern Medical Foundation strives for accuracy in its publications, including the Podcast.  However, due to the nature of the topics discussed, there frequently is not a clear-cut “right answer.”  Consequently, Southwestern Medical Foundation cannot guarantee the accuracy or sufficiency of any information presented. 
The views of the hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily represent the views or opinions of their employers or affiliated organizations, nor Southwestern Medical Foundation, the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center or the University of Texas System.  The inclusion of any guest or mention of any product or service does not constitute an endorsement thereof, nor of any company, employer, or organization with which the guest, product, or service is affiliated. 

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