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Episode Synopsis
Is the small church model dead? In this explosive episode of Lead Time, Tim Ahlman and Jack Kalleberg sit down with Pastor Rob Myallis (ELCA) for a brutally honest conversation about the economic realities choking the life out of mid-sized churches. With rising costs, unsustainable pastoral expectations, and shifting cultural engagement, Rob unpacks why churches averaging 80–120 in attendance may not survive without radical change.We tackle everything:$30,000 health insurance costsWhy 150 people is the relational ceilingThe burnout crisis among solo pastorsWhy people treat church like a rec center, not a sanctuaryAnd the hard truth: your old church model probably isn’t workingIf you’ve ever asked, “Why are so many churches declining?” or “What future does my congregation really have?”—this one’s for you.Support the showJoin the Lead Time Newsletter! (Weekly Updates and Upcoming Episodes)https://www.uniteleadership.org/lead-time-podcast#newsletterVisit uniteleadership.org
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