Ever wish your partner would just get on board with points and miles? You’re not alone! In this episode of the Lazy Budget Travel Tips podcast, I sit down with my husband, Brandon, to talk about his complete 180—from being totally against credit cards to actively strategizing when it’s time for us to open a new one. We’ll chat about:What the heck a Player Two (P2) is and why having one can double your points gameThe moment Brandon realized points and miles weren’t a scamHow referral bonuses can stack up big time and make a huge differenceAddressing fears about credit cards and debt the right wayHow we justify annual fees (hint: it’s all about the value)Some of our favorite trips we never would’ve taken without points If your partner thinks points and miles aren’t worth it, or if you’re trying to ease them into the game without overwhelming them, this episode is for you! Episode Breakdown 00:00 - Intro & why this topic matters00:59 - What’s a Player Two (P2) & why it’s a game-changer04:46 - Brandon’s initial skepticism & first experiences10:17 - The perks of having a P2 (hint: double the points!)12:12 - Credit cards & debt: Breaking down the fear factor14:07 - Our favorite points-funded trips20:50 - Are annual fees really worth it?26:03 - Confidence & discipline: Getting comfortable with credit cards33:25 - Advice for P1s trying to get their P2 on board39:29 - Wrap-up & final thoughts Got questions? Join the conversation in the Lazy Budget Travel Tips Facebook Group or hit me up on Instagram @travelingfranklins!  Support the showFull episodes, including video, are available on Youtube. Check out more from Genni: Join the Lazy Budget Travel Tips Facebook Group Grab the FREE Budget Travel 101 Course Follow Genni on Instagram Traveling Franklins Blog Get the Weekly Newsletter! Show Support for the Podcast: Check out my Credit Card Links (no cost to you) or Buy Me A Coffee (or Burrito iykyk)

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