In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin sits down with Danielle Cook  -  VP of Marketing, appCD and Co-chair, CNCF Cartografos Working Group, CNCF. The discussion dives into how technical individual contributors can and should think about a business case for cloud native adoption. They talk about the cloud native maturity model and also discuss the different things business leaders care about.   Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/    Cloud Native News: https://www.chainguard.dev/unchained/chainguard-series-c https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/23/google-wiz-deal-dead.html https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-you-need-to-know-red-hat-openshift-416  https://blog.kubeflow.org/kubeflow-1.9-release/ https://talks.devopsdays.org/devopsdays-boston-2024/cfp  Show links:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-cook-/ https://maturitymodel.cncf.io/ https://community.cncf.io/cncf-cartografos-working-group/ https://tag-app-delivery.cncf.io/whitepapers/platform-eng-maturity-model/ Timestamps:  00:01:36 Cloud Native News  00:12:07 Interview with Danielle 00:51:20 Key takeaways

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