In this episode, hosts Tom Culligan and Clayton Swope interview former NASA Associate Administrator for Intergovernmental and Legislative Affairs and new Commercial Space Federation Executive Director Alicia Brown on her time leading space policy for then-Chairman Bill Nelson (D-FL) and later NASA Administrator Bill Nelson.Alicia pulls the curtain back on how Congress and NASA really work and what each side of Penn Ave doesn't understand about each other, her experience writing bills and then having to implement them at NASA and other adventures in civil and commercial space policy over the last decade in Congress, the Administration and industry.

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