Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and entrepreneur Michael Saylor discuss how money, morality, and civilization break down. Saylor argues that fiat currency is not just flawed—it’s actively corrosive. He presents Bitcoin as the antidote: a form of pure digital energy, resistant to decay, inflation, and political manipulation. Through thermodynamics, theology, and history, Saylor paints a stark picture of civilizational entropy and proposes Bitcoin as the only incorruptible foundation on which a sustainable future can be built. If we don’t fix the money, he warns, everything else falls.This episode was filmed on May 30th, 2025.Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire+. Start watching now: http://dwpluspeterson.com/ytALL LINKS: https://feedlink.io/jordanbpeterson| Sponsors |Parenting: Bullying and Peer Pressure - When teens spiral, it’s often silent at first. Dr. Peterson speaks with parents whose children faced bullying and peer manipulation—then offers practical tools to rebuild trust, reestablish communication, and help kids choose better friendships. Available now, exclusively on DailyWire+ https://www.dailywire.com/show/parenting Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per month trial period at http://shopify.com/jbpMarek Health: Get a 10% discount on the Optimization Package (use code PETERSON): https://marekhealth.com/peterson| Links |For Michael Saylor:On X https://x.com/saylor Website https://www.michael.com/ Read “What is Money” https://a.co/d/c1t4izi // LINKS //Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.comARC https://www.arcforum.comBooks - https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/books/#JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hyoONj4nEY

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