"We weren't having like a group therapy session. We weren't talking about this one time in Iraq or this one, you know, that's not what the program is. We were talking about Robert Frost and two roads diverge into what all of a sudden we're having these discussions and some of them, you know, do reflect on our past in the military and most of them do, that's kind of the framework.

Right. But it was this like intentional, very deliberate way for us just to get talking and sharing some emotions, being vulnerable."

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