The multi-chain future isn't coming—it's here. But winning it requires more than just technology.In this episode of Inflection Points, host Jack Purdy sits down with Magmar, co-CEO of the Interchain Foundation, to explore how Cosmos is evolving from crypto-native adoption to institutional infrastructure—and why that shift changes everything about blockchain growth strategy.From early Litecoin mining to co-founding NFT platform Cent (which sold Jack Dorsey's famous $2M tweet) to now leading the Interchain Foundation, Magmar shares hard-won lessons about building for the long-term vision while navigating short-term market realities:Why the 2019 multi-chain thesis proved prophetic—and what institutional adoption looks like in practiceHow to measure real-world value creation beyond TVL and other gameable DeFi metricsThe sovereignty premium: why enterprises choose L1s over smart contracts or L2sRevenue models that work: from cross-chain transaction fees to chain-as-a-service offeringsWhy they walked away from the EVM compatibility race—and doubled down on institutional sales insteadReal case studies: Ondo's tokenized assets, XRP sidechains, and Provenance's $40B in on-chain enterprise assetsThe regulatory clarity driving this wave—and how it creates competitive moatsDrawing on seven years of organic adoption across 500+ chains, Magmar outlines a vision where every business eventually operates its own blockchain—with Cosmos providing the infrastructure that connects them all.👋 0:00 – Magmar's journey: from 2012 Litecoin mining to leading Cosmos 🌐 3:46 – Multi-chain evolution: how the 2019 vision became reality 🏢 9:11 – Enterprise adoption: why institutions want sovereignty over smart contracts 📊 14:42 – Beyond TVL: measuring real business value in a multi-chain world 💰 23:37 – Revenue models: monetizing infrastructure without compromising open source ideals📈 30:45 – Incentives: using grants and incentives to drive growth well using governance-controlled community pools 🎯 33:30 – Strategic focus: how positioning influences developer activity ⚖️ 41:20 – Risk management: regulatory setbacks vs. competitive threats 🔮 45:10 – The long view: betting on business blockchain adoption over the next decadeInflection Points is a podcast by Flipside that surfaces the pivotal choices, data-backed frameworks, and long-view builders creating resilient blockchain ecosystems.Want to learn more about Cosmos? 👉 Follow @Cosmos on X for ecosystem updatesWant to learn more about Flipside Crypto?📊 Learn and try out the FlipsideAI Blockchain Intelligence Platform👉 Read the Intelligence-Driven Growth Playbook🐦 Follow Flipside on X for more intelligence @flipsidecryptoWant to dig deeper into the principles of Intelligence-Driven Growth? 👉 Read the Intelligence-Driven Growth Playbook 📊 Learn about Flipside's ecosystem growth engine 🐦 Follow Flipside on X for more intelligence @flipsidecrypto

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