In our second interview podcast of July 2018, Doug Stilwell shares lessons learned on his transition from a public school administrator to a professor of education at Drake University, once bitten by the Deming philosophy.  (This is Tripp's second interview with Doug.  Link here for the first interview.) Highlights include: Continued impact of new education methods in the Urbandale Community School District How to bring more of Dr. Deming's ideas into higher education? How to impact the next generation of leaders in education? Drake's Continual Improvement Network What happens when students leave Doug's classes? Network improvement communities "The system always wins" Moving away from the A-F grading system Shifting from a "time rigid / learning flexible" system to a "time flexible / learning rigid" system

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