The Pegasus spyware scandal has embroiled world leaders, journalists, governments, and once again raises questions about cybersecurity. So we turn to cybersecurity expert John McCumber to turn down the noise on the Pegasus headlines and explain why governments turn to companies like NSO Group, how cybersecurity works to shape geopolitics, why terms like "hack" aren't helpful in explaining what's happening and is red flags on stories like this, and how to discern who is to blame and what is really going on when cybersecurity is in the news. Also, John explains the latest cybersecurity rules China has imposed on businesses under the heading of "data crackdown' but really is a way to gain access to even more information.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/heard-tell/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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