In this episode of the Healthcare Leadership Excellence podcast, I sit down with coach and podcaster Curtis McCullom to dig into human potential—what really changes behavior and how leaders can reach flow on purpose. Curtis shares his path from 35+ years in financial services to coaching with hypnotherapy, NLP, and Mental & Emotional Release (MER).We clear up myths about hypnosis, talk about the conscious vs. subconscious split, and look at why language shapes state, which shapes behavior. Curtis explains anchoring, self-hypnosis, and a “learning/peripheral” state leaders can use before high-stakes work. We also press on evidence, sustainability, and how to work with skeptics. Curtis’ LEGIT framework—Learning, Growing, Expanding, Transforming—gives a simple arc for change, and his bespoke approach meets each leader where they are. I leave with practical ways to condition the mind daily, not just in the moment.Show notes:Curtis’ path: sales records → coaching → certifications in clinical hypnotherapy, NLP (master practitioner), MERClearing myths: stage hypnosis vs. therapeutic trance; why we slip into trance all day longThe 5% / 95% idea: conscious goals vs. subconscious patterns and habitsNLP in practice: the language we use → internal representation → state → behaviorMER basics: find the root event, get the learning, release the stored charge, cascade the learning forwardSustainability: daily “mental supplement” audio + self-hypnosis to condition the new patternEntering flow on purpose: anchoring peak states; brief trance; widening peripheral attention (“learning state”)Working with skeptics and hard-charging cultures: start with values, model of the world, and bespoke pathwaysSubscribe to Karl’s Leadership Writing.👉 Who is Karl Pister?👉 Follow us on LinkedIn.👉 Have access to leadership materials that will level up your game.👉 Contact us on our website.👉 Subscribe to Karl's YouTube channel.Ready to level up your leadership skills? Sign up for The Coaching Group's leadership courses.

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