Laurie Pieters-James is an Offender Profiler, Forensic Criminologist, Expert Witness and best-selling author of Shattered Lives: The Story of Advocate Barbie. Chris, Ron and Laurie dive deep into understanding the mind of a hacker, a criminal, and a criminal hacker. Laurie has spent her career learning to profile the most heinous criminals, both in cyber and on the streets. Listen to help yourself understand the enemy from the inside out.
 
 
03:20 Bio
04:41 Why did you choose to learn the mind?
06:23 Do criminals think about the punishment when they commit a crime?
09:06 The bridge to cyber security
13:39 Replicating red challenges on the blue side
18:47 Moral disengagement
20:03 Justifying deviant behavior
24:28 More tools for hackers
28:07 Getting into criminology 
31:05 Getting started understanding a hacker’s mind
 
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