What if the key to transformational leadership wasn’t about controlling chaos, but eliminating the drama that fuels it? In this episode of GET IN, I sit down with Cy Wakeman—drama researcher, best-selling author, and leadership visionary—to explore the revolutionary practice of Reality-Based Leadership beyond ego with less drama. From boardrooms to break rooms, Cy’s work has reshaped cultures at Google, NASA, and Fortune 500 companies across the globe. Tune in as we explore how to lead without ego, unlock innovation through accountability, and shift our inner narrative from complaint to clarity. This conversation is an invitation to wake up, take responsibility, and rewrite your workplace—and your life—through the power of reality. Learn more about Cy Wakeman: Reality Based Leadership Read her books: Reality-Based Leadership: Ditch the Drama, Restore Sanity to the Workplace, and Turn Excuses into Results No Ego: How Leaders Can Cut the Cost of Workplace Drama, End Entitlement, and Drive Big Results The Reality-Based Rules of the Workplace: Know What Boosts Your Value, Kills Your Chances, and Will Make You Happier Learn more about Debbie Rosas: www.debbierosas.com www.nianow.com www.niaondemand.com  

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