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Published 3 February 2025
E499 with Michael and Michael – all about #AI with #DeepSeek, #coldstart, #hallucinations, #BerlinWall, #AttentionEconomy, #IntentionEconomy and a whole lot more!
Michael and Michael start the AI train off with a discussion about DeepSeek, which has been all over the news this past week.  This leads into a conversation about generative AI’s propensity to hallucinate, and per the Schneier article, how AI mistakes are very different from human mistakes.  Michael M gives an example of his recent experience using Ollama to run LLMs on his laptop, and the GenAI inaccurate description of some of the events leading up to the fall of the Berlin Wall, which in and of itself was precipitated by a human mistake.  
Next up is a discussion on methods used to trick AI scrapers that ignore the robots.txt file – and a callback to e451 where other data poisoning techniques were front and center.  Remember Nightshade, anyone? 
Wrapping things up for the episode, Michael and Michael go deep on a discussion on the migration from the “attention economy” to the “intention economy”.  Check out the discussion from 2013, e67 about the attention economy!  
Have we entered the “intention economy”?  How can you protect your data from being harvested for the intention economy?  Have your bots 🤖 drop our bots 🤖 a line at @[email protected] (our home for now) and let us know! 
These show notes were lovingly hand crafted by a real human, and not by a bot.  All rights reserved.  That’s our story and we’re sticking to it.
Selected Links
AI
Boy Genius Report: Here’s another reason not to use DeepSeek AI
IEEE Spectrum article: What DeepSeek Means for Open-Source AI Its new open reasoning model cuts costs drastically on AI reasoning

DeepSeek.com 
Schneier on Security article: AI Mistakes Are Very Different from Human Mistakes
ollama.com
TheWorld.org article: How a mistake at a press conference helped topple the Berlin Wall
Ars Technica article: AI haters build tarpits to trap and trick AI scrapers that ignore robots.txt
Games at Work e451: Fahrenheit 
Fast Company article: Frustrated with today’s ‘attention economy’? You’re really going to hate what comes next
Harvard Data Science Review: Beware the Intention Economy: Collection and Commodification of Intent via Large Language Models
Games at Work e67: Free BitCoins!



Web 11.0 mashup junkie, and co-founder / co-host of the GamesAtWork.biz podcast. My views are my own.
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