We all pray for love. We all desire peace. We all want to have joy. It's that patience that looks suspicious.  We all know the joke about how praying for patience is dangerous, because God answers that prayer with lots of opportunities to develop it. Is that what the Bible says about patience, though?  In this episode Gretchen and Katie go deep as they talk about how hope and patience are linked together, how we are given patience, and how the 3 persons of the Trinity fit into all of this. What if patience was not about working our muscles, and more about God? Register for the 1517 event in Minnesota Support 1517 podcasts

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