Technical debt is the source of a lot of confusion, concern, and negative stigma in the startup world. It's the idea that taking a coding shortcut now - to meet a deadline, push an iteration, or for some other goal - will lead to more development work needed in the future. Non-technical founders may fear it, have trouble recognizing it, try avoid it, and unknowingly accrue it. Nael El Shawwa, Head of Engineering at Perpetua.io, has a different perspective. He joins Brian Gupton on the podcast to discuss how founders can thoughtfully - not recklessly - leverage technical debt to help move their vision forward. This thought-provoking conversation also digs into topics such as leadership - how to embrace it for yourself and how to identify and foster it in others; the current state of tech recruitment; and what can be gained and lost as we are siloed away from the office in remote work. We really enjoyed this conversation and think you will too.

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