In June 2023 Elaine met Josine van Noord from Holland at the Focusing Weeklong in Dublin. They recorded this impromptu interview in which Josine describes how she learned Focusing from Marta Stapert who is renowned for her work on Focusing with children.  Josine's story of her very early years in a prisoner-of-war camp in Indonesia and the healing Focusing brought to her adult life is both touching and inspiring.Focusing with Children: The art of communicating with children at school and at home by Marta Stapert and Erik Verliefde (PCCS Books, 2008)Rob Foxcroft Feeling Heard, Hearing Others. The poem 'Marta' which Josine refers to is on page 154.*This interview was recorded in a bedroom at the Dominican Retreat Centre in Tallaght on a laptop so apologies if the sound quality is slightly off and it ended up more like a chat as opposed to an interview.

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