Money touches everything — it's tied to our hearts, our obedience, and even our view of God. In this episode, I sit down with Phil McMillan — former financial advisor, executive pastor, and now part of Convoy of Hope's work with partnering churches — to talk about the roots of our money mindsets. We share our own struggles with scarcity thinking and how God has led him toward freedom and missional living. Phil unpacks the shifts that make financial tools actually sustainable, and we dive into the role money played in the church in Acts. More than anything, Phil challenges us to reflect on this question: when it comes to our resources, who is God asking you to become? If you've ever wrestled with fear, guilt, or striving around money, this conversation will invite you into a new way of operating — one rooted in God's abundance. Connect with Phil on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.  Connect with Jourdan on Instagram or learn more about one-on-one coaching here. 

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